Comments on: Our site gets ripped, but gues what, we caught them. http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/ Dragan's blog programming, design, fun and other stuff Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:32:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: JC28 http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-5209 Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:49:06 +0000 http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-5209 NO, no little thefts or big thefts. Make it real easy, be proud of your work, and stop being so proud that it causes you to cringe to think some one might not be giving you credit for the "wonderful masterpiece" of a website youve created. Let the guys have it. Let them show admiration to you work. Hell, post it all over the internet saying "Look everyone, these guys liked my work so much, there using for their site." But starting a bitch fit and pleading for the removal of your work off the site, cmon.... No need for someone to steal any of the work I produce. I freely offer it to all. I can't think of a better feeling for a programmer, then knowing that someone liked my work enough to use it, or, better yet, that me offering my work to others for any use they desire, may have helped someone in any way. Whether it be personal knowledge, or financial gain. They bring me no harm in doing this, and all it could possibly have done is better the world of programing. NO, no little thefts or big thefts. Make it real easy, be proud of your work, and stop being so proud that it causes you to cringe to think some one might not be giving you credit for the "wonderful masterpiece" of a website youve created. Let the guys have it. Let them show admiration to you
work. Hell, post it all over the internet saying "Look everyone, these guys liked my work so much, there using for their site." But starting a bitch fit and pleading for the removal of your work off the site, cmon....
No need for someone to steal any of the work I produce. I freely offer it to all. I can't think of a better feeling for a programmer, then knowing that someone liked my work enough to use it, or, better yet, that me offering my work to others for any use they desire, may have helped someone in any way. Whether it be personal knowledge, or financial gain. They bring me no harm in doing this, and all it could possibly have done is better the world of programing.

]]> by: Dragan http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-4934 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:54:57 +0000 http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-4934 @jc28 Oh, now there is "little" thefts and "big" ones. Nice to know that. ;) Just for the record, entire site is original and built from scratch, we coded every line of it. Thats why we take this personally. Maybe if you ever create something original, and live to see how others steal it and use it without your permission you could understand this. Fact that you can visit some gallery and find bunch of similar sites, still does not make work that we put into it worthless. Yet you come here, defend guys that steal our code, and underestimate our work. @jc28
Oh, now there is "little" thefts and "big" ones.
Nice to know that. ;)

Just for the record, entire site is original and built from scratch, we coded every line of it. Thats why we take this personally. Maybe if you ever create something original, and live to see how others steal it and use it without your permission you could understand this.

Fact that you can visit some gallery and find bunch of similar sites, still does not make work that we put into it worthless.

Yet you come here, defend guys that steal our code, and underestimate our work.

]]> by: JC28 http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-4930 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:39:40 +0000 http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-4930 Still missing the point. It's not whether or not he used some of the code, a little of the code, or damn near copied the entire thing. What he did copy was a site that falls in the "every day, nothing special" category. I can turn on my browser and stumble to 10 random sites and find atleast a couple that look close to identical in design and layout. The fact that some guy used the code to then make his own site was hardly worth the amount of drama, bullshit, and crying like a baby, that this situation created. Maybey.... if this guy had created a site for a company that would be considered a competitor, or maybe if the had the same demographic of viewers, but there paths were never ment to be crossed. Get over it Still missing the point. It's not whether or not he used some of the code, a little of the code, or damn near copied the entire thing. What he did copy was a site that falls in the "every day, nothing special" category. I can turn on my browser and stumble to 10 random sites and find atleast a couple that look close to identical in design and layout. The fact that some guy used the code to then make his own site was hardly worth the amount of drama, bullshit, and crying like a baby, that this situation created. Maybey.... if this guy had created a site for a company that would be considered a competitor, or maybe if the had the same demographic of viewers, but there paths were never ment to be crossed. Get over it

]]> by: Deivid Okop http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-4917 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:48:48 +0000 http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-4917 I cant really understand how someone calls that "borrowing your code" or "using a part of your code". The guy didnt "based his work" on this website - he downloaded it and (ab)used 99% of it - not "portions of code". i mean come on. "i based my work on yours so much i didnt even change the css name"... just for the note - he used your own code and you got proof of that - thats illegal where i live (and im sure on 90% of the other countries too). I cant really understand how someone calls that "borrowing your code" or "using a part of your code". The guy didnt "based his work" on this website - he downloaded it and (ab)used 99% of it - not "portions of code".

i mean come on. "i based my work on yours so much i didnt even change the css name"...

just for the note - he used your own code and you got proof of that - thats illegal where i live (and im sure on 90% of the other countries too).

]]> by: David Gurevich http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-4908 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:31:09 +0000 http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-4908 You may want to make sure this whole thing isn't an attempt to get you removed from search engine rankings. This sort of thing is very similar to a standard tactic to hurt someone's search engine ranking. You may want to make sure this whole thing isn't an attempt to get you removed from search engine rankings. This sort of thing is very similar to a standard tactic to hurt someone's search engine ranking.

]]> by: JC28 http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-4906 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:13:41 +0000 http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-4906 How in the hell, in a time such as now, can any developer even start to bitch about someone using there code, or mimicking a portion of a graphical layout. In case you guys at delve have not been paying attention the past couple of years, let me introduce you to open source. Now, I'm not talking about the "free download, modify this source code how you want" open source. I am talking about the name given to the set of belief systems held by ones that honestly love, practice, and understand what it takes to grow in the technology era we now live in. Here is a great quote. "There is NOTHING new under the Sun". This was stated over 4000 years ago. You have done nothing "new" or even "of any grand worth" with your "everyday run of the mill" site. I've seen the same basic design 1000 times. So where did you steal the idea from. Probably from the collaborative work of 1000's of dedicated techies, that set todays standards for acceptable web design, and worry more about furthering the industry to its ultimate abilities, instead of throwing a bitch fit because, "he copied my answer!" Sounds to me like you all at delve embodie the self-righteous, pompous, crying, "I'm a greedy little Bitch", mentality that will soon lead to a employee staff comprised of nothing but washed programmers who can't figure out how the rest of the world is moving so much faster in development then they ever thought possible. I bet you all dream about working for microsoft. How in the hell, in a time such as now, can any developer even start to bitch about someone using there code, or mimicking a portion of a graphical layout. In case you guys at delve have not been paying attention the past couple of years, let me introduce you to open source. Now, I'm not talking about the "free download, modify this source code how you want" open source. I am talking about the name given to the set of belief systems held by ones that honestly love, practice, and understand what it takes to grow in the technology era we now live in. Here is a great quote. "There is NOTHING new under the Sun". This was stated over 4000 years ago. You have done nothing "new" or even "of any grand worth" with your "everyday run of the mill" site. I've seen the same basic design 1000 times. So where did you steal the idea from. Probably from the collaborative work of 1000's of dedicated techies, that set todays standards for acceptable web design, and worry more about furthering the industry to its ultimate abilities, instead of throwing a bitch fit because, "he copied my answer!" Sounds to me like you all at delve embodie the self-righteous, pompous, crying, "I'm a greedy little Bitch", mentality that will soon lead to a employee staff comprised of nothing but washed programmers who can't figure out how the rest of the world is moving so much faster in development then they ever thought possible. I bet you all dream about working for microsoft.

]]> by: crystalmethod http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-4901 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:27:07 +0000 http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-4901 WTF!? This is what we get when we look at sites made by 14 yo kids. It's our fault. WTF!? This is what we get when we look at sites made by 14 yo kids. It's our fault.

]]> by: Jordan Widel http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-4898 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:41:23 +0000 http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-4898 Man I what losers copying your work And not even asking Man I what losers copying your work
And not even asking

]]> by: spongekill http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-4895 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:07:57 +0000 http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-4895 who cares. how much pirated music, movies and software do you guys have who cares. how much pirated music, movies and software do you guys have

]]> by: someone http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-4893 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:26:44 +0000 http://dragan.yourtree.org/blog/en/2007/11/09/our-site-gets-ripped-but-gues-what-we-caught-them/#comment-4893 I agree with some of the comments place here, I would only get pissed off if someone takes my shit, and makes it look incredibly worse, and take all the credit for it. I personally like to learn from different sites, borrow an idea or two from great work and ad my style to it, then create something new. Either way, as long as they don't sell your services, and take complete credit for your work it should not be much of a prob. On a positive note, these people are helping you spread consistency between websites, and it makes usability easier. :) I agree with some of the comments place here, I would only get pissed off if someone takes my shit, and makes it look incredibly worse, and take all the credit for it. I personally like to learn from different sites, borrow an idea or two from great work and ad my style to it, then create something new. Either way, as long as they don't sell your services, and take complete credit for your work it should not be much of a prob. On a positive note, these people are helping you spread consistency between websites, and it makes usability easier. :)

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